06 06 p3 Real Life Primaries and Caucuses
Publication date 2016-06-06
Topics Real Life Talk, Primaries and Caucuses, Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, NBA, NBA Playoffs, NBA Finals, Golden State Warriors, Cleveland Cavaliers, Muhammad Ali, Host-Machorek, Host-Petreski, Talk Show
Note: This audio file will be edited and replaced at a later time.
Length: 45:40 (will change).
Recorded LIVE on June 6, 2016 (part 3 of 3) and broadcasted LIVE on MTR Radio. Machorek and Petreski Real Life Talk. Off the cuff, unrehearsed, no show prep. Topics: Presidential primaries and caucuses, a caller discusses the NBA Finals (from 3:33 to 11:39 of this recording), memorable quotes by Muhammad Ali (final segment beginning at 37:02).
With primary elections set to take place June 7th in New Jersey, California, and four other states, the presumptive nominees for the Republican and Democratic Parties -- Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton -- have either secured enough delegates (Trump) or are on the cusp of securing enough delegates (Clinton) to earn the nomination. Yet Clinton's opponent Bernie Sanders vows to contest votes at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia July 25-28, the same as opponents of Trump had vowed to do at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland July 18-21.
We have an off the cuff discussion about the flaws of the system of primaries and caucuses, notably how there are a large number of delegates -- 2,472 for Republicans, 4,762 for Democrats -- for which the general public votes while having no sense of who they are, and in certain cases are nominated by the party and may vote for whomever they like, not bound to vote for the candidate which wins their state or district (i.e. as the electoral college must do for candidates who wins their state in the general election in November). We also touch upon how the Iowa Caucuses take place on Feb. 1st and the last round of statewide primaries take place June 7th -- a 127-day span, more than 18 weeks -- which seems extremely dragged out and unfair to the voters in states like New Jersey and California who vote last, while voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina who vote first seem to have great impact in shaping the narrative of presidential race.
We posit that, while it would be unfair to the candidates to have all the primaries held at the same time, it should be condensed over a much shorter period of time (e.g. eight weeks instead of 18, with six or seven states voting each week instead of an average of three). We also point out how caucuses (public debates and votes over candidates) as opposed to primaries (private votes similar to the general election) attract fanatical political junkies that are likely more extreme far-right or far-left than the mass majority of voters, which leads to producing candidates who are less palatable to the general public. We wonder why some states are winner-take-all while others award delegates on a proportional basis, yet in a few instances -- Trump in Louisiana and Sanders in Wyoming -- the winner of the popular vote received the second-most delegates, due to "superdelegates" who, by arcane rules, are not required to vote in alignment with the popular vote.
This discussion stems from a piece performed by John Oliver on his HBO show May 22nd and linked below (remember to right-click and select "Open in new tab/window").
During the first segment, a caller reopens our discussion from the first hour of the show about the NBA Finals and whether his bet on the Cavaliers might still pan out after the Warriors took the first two games in convincing fashion. In the final segment, we revisit the lead topic from the first hour of the show -- the passing of Muhammad Ali -- and share some memorable Ali quotes which evoke his larger impact on society than merely a sporting champion.
Audio credits: Master P "Whole Hood" 2005, EPMD "Blow" 2007, T.I. "No Matter What" 2008.
Editorial Note: We performed a 55-minute broadcast. Breaks containing advertisements and the bottom-of-the-hour update were removed at the 13:30, 28:26, and 37:02 marks of this recording (will change).
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